I've read the comments about the hurley and the huck, and frankly I don't believe some of the comments. I have a Malinois,shepherd and a presa canario. Let me tell you that these three dogs are chewers. These two toys were given to us by a friend that owns a pet store. my husband and I were looking at the toys and explaining to her how we really haven't found too many toy that our dogs can't destroy. She gave us these two items free of charge and told us that we wouldn't believe how our dogs are going to love these and that they are pretty tough. They're still chewing and enjoying. Thanks for such a great product. Rhino, Jax and liesel thank you too.