I bought the Tux and Jive for my two labs. I was searching for something that they couldn't destroy. We have the black Kong's, they haven't destroyed them, but they are really heavy and not good for indoor use since they leave black streak marks wherever they land and my yello lab plays fetch with himself, so he throws the ball into walls, floors etc leaving marks everywhere. Both my dogs were extatic with a new toy, I watched nervously as they tried to tear into the Tux and Jive... nothing, not a scratch not a dent, nothing. Unbelievable! They have tried everything in their little bag of destruction tricks and not one little bit of them has come off. I will ALWAYS be a fan of West Paw and will continue to purchase our pups toys from them. On a side note, our cat LOVES the Jive. He bats it around the house everytime he gets a chance!